tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post4841157351649741161..comments2024-03-26T17:55:50.539-04:00Comments on Cranky old man: THE NSA AND PRIVACYjoehhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08520161706680568508noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-16805997919222570442013-06-16T01:27:52.064-04:002013-06-16T01:27:52.064-04:00OOPS! "NSA Admits Listening to U.S. Phone Cal...OOPS! "NSA Admits Listening to U.S. Phone Calls Without Warrants"<br /><br />http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57589495-38/nsa-admits-listening-to-u.s-phone-calls-without-warrants/Valhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13025832536749983018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-7671762706604376892013-06-15T22:27:03.704-04:002013-06-15T22:27:03.704-04:00A Retired Federal Judge has advised me that the pr...A Retired Federal Judge has advised me that the practice of getting information on whom a person has called and who has called a person has been in effect for over 50 years with a legal basis that people should not expect privacy of this information as it is in the records of the phone company. Content of said calls is only legally collected with a judges approval of a wire tap if probable cause has been demonstrated. Such a grant is not taken lightly or granted casually. <br /><br />The mass collection of call data (NOT CONTENT) is an extension of a practice which is well established and been I place for since the 1930's joehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08520161706680568508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-68748705712311983692013-06-15T21:07:03.921-04:002013-06-15T21:07:03.921-04:00My mom used to scoff at me when we heard clicking ...My mom used to scoff at me when we heard clicking on the line during our phone calls. "It's the Feds snooping on us," I'd tell her. "Time to change the subject."<br /><br />She called me a crazy conspiracy theorist, although in more polite Mom-words. I'm having the last laugh now.Valhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13025832536749983018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-2478952048790953772013-06-15T20:19:28.581-04:002013-06-15T20:19:28.581-04:00Personally I don't have any secrets, in fact m...Personally I don't have any secrets, in fact many of my friends tell me I need to work on being more circumspect, so it doesn't really upset me the way it seems to upset other people.Kellie @ Delightfully Ludicroushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18226603919012169939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-65196396951958478332013-06-15T17:43:39.545-04:002013-06-15T17:43:39.545-04:00Well, as someone who is on Facebook and has a TMI ...Well, as someone who is on Facebook and has a TMI blog ... with absolutely nothing that would cause any concern anywhere at anytime to the national security ... it really doesn't bother or surprise me that such monitoring goes on.<br /><br />The Patriot Act began all this ... gotta be some way to intercept the bad guys' stuff. What better way than to check airwaves ... the frequency of said airwaves to certain areas.<br /><br />I am an old woman in a minivan. I had to stop with everyone else along the border of Mexico. AND even though ... I knew I did not have any illegal aliens or drugs in my van ... when the dogs came sniffing about and the border patrol looked into my van? <br /><br />It gave me a bit of an adrenaline rush ... OR how about the little kids and people in wheelchairs being searched at airports...<br /><br />I tell ya... the terrorists and 9/11 created the necessity for tighter security changes.<br /><br />It's war, y'all. <br />Carolynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03663919207326700505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-58344512443927041622013-06-15T15:14:10.978-04:002013-06-15T15:14:10.978-04:00I think the Government has done a good job of keep...I think the Government has done a good job of keeping us safe after 9/!!. I wasn't in favor of the Patriot Act by I don't understand why people have their panties in a bunch over this. No phone calls are guaranteed to be private. Remember part lines? Or the operator breaking in? Your point is well made about people publishing every thought in their head on the Social Media and then getting upset people are listening. stephen Hayeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17659054447637207734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-59897809328522484492013-06-15T12:22:59.267-04:002013-06-15T12:22:59.267-04:00i say monitor all you want. if it stops just one t...i say monitor all you want. if it stops just one terrorist, then, so be it.TexWisGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13641962051044162710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-20666136955950820022013-06-15T11:44:46.588-04:002013-06-15T11:44:46.588-04:00I agree with you, reluctantly. It's a pity th...I agree with you, reluctantly. It's a pity that such surveillance is necessary, but in this day & age, it is. I learned a new word today--immiscible. Thanks!! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-56632332923369479162013-06-15T11:16:09.073-04:002013-06-15T11:16:09.073-04:00Edward Snowden notwithstanding, I agree with you. ...Edward Snowden notwithstanding, I agree with you. From a bleeding heart liberal who will leave it to our grandchildren to sort the terrorists and the debt. Joanne Noragonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09834682329952369721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-59291058213894367202013-06-15T09:39:18.700-04:002013-06-15T09:39:18.700-04:00I sense I've ruffled your feathers Cranky. Pl...I sense I've ruffled your feathers Cranky. Please, counterpoint. I like hearing your intelligent thoughts, even if they aren't 100% in agreement with mine. And *gasp* I've even been known to change my opinion.<br /><br />S<br />Lowandslowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08608734222483888884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-14979352422840525362013-06-15T08:59:20.443-04:002013-06-15T08:59:20.443-04:00The Cranky Old Man has a great deal of trouble not...The Cranky Old Man has a great deal of trouble not responding to comments on these opinion posts. I have a last word issue. Let me reiterate, in case I have already iterated it, I encourage and <br />respect all opinions, but my opinion is the correct one and is not subject to change except in very unusual situations...or if management tells me to change.joehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08520161706680568508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-10062901842559590342013-06-15T08:46:15.327-04:002013-06-15T08:46:15.327-04:00This is a touchy topic, Cranky. On the face of it...This is a touchy topic, Cranky. On the face of it I can't disagree with what you say. If some computer algorithm can pick up certain words in conversation that would lead to breaking up a terrorist attack, then this snooping would be worthwhile. But it is a very slippery slope. If we allow X, then why not Y and Z? We don't know where it will lead next. <br /><br />It gets back to "trust". Do you trust the US Government? I don 't. They have given us ample reason for me to think this way. I would just like to see some direct relationship between "probable cause" and government surveillance.<br /><br />Very thought provoking. :)<br /><br />SLowandslowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08608734222483888884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-72262465721089278772013-06-15T08:12:44.270-04:002013-06-15T08:12:44.270-04:00This data may be used to prevent a 9/11 but if any...This data may be used to prevent a 9/11 but if any person who has access to this information(and there are tens of thousands of them) ...if any one of these is a nutjob, has a personal agenda, wants money, is determined to make a point...then we ARE at risk. Taborhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15257045780724471840noreply@blogger.com