tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post2216118373835645956..comments2024-03-26T17:55:50.539-04:00Comments on Cranky old man: POLITICS AND RELIGIONjoehhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08520161706680568508noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-15096703832970552802012-06-16T14:47:50.380-04:002012-06-16T14:47:50.380-04:00Just as there are conversion zealots in atheism, t...Just as there are conversion zealots in atheism, there are similar zealots in most religions. Missionaries spent years trying to convert savages to Christianity. Perhaps atheists are simply trying to do what religions have done for centuries. The most vocal atheists seem to be most upset when religion becomes a part of public policy. That is why religion and politics should never mix.<br /><br />Although not a conversion zealot, I do consider myself an atheist. I have no VOID and EMPTINESS in my life -in fact I think I have a full, wonderful life. Most atheists simply accept the fact that life is full of love and hate, joy and tragedy, good and evil. I have lost loved ones including horrible suffering of cancer. No prayers were said, but kindness and love were given. Direct actions provide more comfort than prayers.<br /><br />One does not need a god to be a "good" person. Honor and character have nothing to do with religion. Unfortunately many ascribe those qualities only to those people with religion. There are numerous examples of religious people behaving badly.<br /><br />In response to planetdolce: ooo! ahhh!Catch Her in the Wryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13052541966405145087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-82482695082062743422012-06-15T19:18:32.015-04:002012-06-15T19:18:32.015-04:00also wonder, what does an atheist say during sex?also wonder, what does an atheist say during sex?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-85721067858952025372012-06-14T03:14:43.256-04:002012-06-14T03:14:43.256-04:00I always enjoy your posts. Always. And I loved t...I always enjoy your posts. Always. And I loved this one, too. And I totally agree how those two topics can sure cause an uproar. There are things I will argue when the opportunity arises, and then there are things that I just won't. I believe everyone has the right to believe or not to believe in a high power. If they do or don't does not affect me, so why argue it? Now, Politics? Well, that does affect me. Sometimes I can get heated about that. That, and abortion. I can get going on that topic, too. But religion? Never. It doesn't affect me what others believe, and every religion has it's good and bad. However, just like the commenter above, I will admit that I don't quite "get" how one can be atheist. When the plane is going down, who do they pray to out of desperation? When their loved one has cancer or is fighting for their life after a traumatic brain injury caused by a car accident...who do they beg to spare their loved one's life? Do atheist's cry out, "Oh God, no...." when they learn of a loved one's sudden death? Or do they just say, "Oh no..." I have never met an atheist and I will admit that I'm a bit curious about them. I respect their non-belief -- I really do -- I just find it very...what's the word....VOID. Yea, I guess that's the word. VOID and EMPTINESS. I just can't imagine having NO belief. NO faith, whatsoever. It hurts my heart just to think of it. But even though I hold that opinion, I would never shun or argue with an atheist about his or her non-beliefs. I really wouldn't. Just as I have Jewish friends, Mormon friends, Christian friends, Catholic friends, and Buddhists friends....I would have an atheist as a friend, too, so long as he or she was a good person. I will say that I'd never knowingly have a Satanic friend. Nope, no way. That's where I draw the line. Because that's just creepy.Katrinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04446770591516588794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-44614067046001722422012-06-13T22:39:07.295-04:002012-06-13T22:39:07.295-04:00Great post. I also try to avoid politics and relig...Great post. I also try to avoid politics and religion in my posts, even though I find spirituality an engaging subject--so long as it doesn't infringe on anyone's beliefs. I also loved that last story.stephen Hayeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17659054447637207734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-33510594798554070702012-06-13T18:06:05.167-04:002012-06-13T18:06:05.167-04:00Well, I must confess to loving both topics... but ...Well, I must confess to loving both topics... but now I'm too old in the tooth to want to discuss either with those whose politics are too extreme -- whether to the right or the left-- or those whose religious views are narrow and bigoted.<br /><br />I love your picture and your story from the Marine!The Broadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04976467218216864644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-21716012220872191782012-06-13T17:25:49.679-04:002012-06-13T17:25:49.679-04:00you know what they say, there are no atheists in f...you know what they say, there are no atheists in foxholes<br /><br />There are no atheists in hell either ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-38749437348510441022012-06-13T14:40:05.014-04:002012-06-13T14:40:05.014-04:00Cranky, if you exclude religion and politics you h...Cranky, if you exclude religion and politics you have taken the meat out of the meal. Sure, we can all get along better if we didn't invite disagreements. But then, life would be quite dull.Rosaria Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133147851332084180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-91484175839062218142012-06-13T13:44:19.647-04:002012-06-13T13:44:19.647-04:00Thank you Cranky, you just made my day...with your...Thank you Cranky, you just made my day...with your great post and with the email from your friend. Good show gentlemen!!!AstridsSoapboxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12765645879431056941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-11771330218449800022012-06-13T13:26:45.797-04:002012-06-13T13:26:45.797-04:00I, too, am [somewhat] spiritual, have a higher pow...I, too, am [somewhat] spiritual, have a higher power (who's sometimes capitalized) and try to be a good person. I have a number of friends who claim to have been atheists but have come to believe there is a power greater than themselves. That's pretty good evidence for me.IT (aka Ivan Toblog)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07484236901066944983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-72889526238843820672012-06-13T11:42:37.706-04:002012-06-13T11:42:37.706-04:00Lowandslow - You offend me daily...keep it up!
Cr...Lowandslow - You offend me daily...keep it up!<br /><br />Crankyjoehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08520161706680568508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-22094534522621622522012-06-13T11:29:18.968-04:002012-06-13T11:29:18.968-04:00Excellent post! I do write about politics, but as...Excellent post! I do write about politics, but as I'm dissatiefied with both parties, I think I offend everyone equally. And I'm always careful to NOT come across as "my way or the highway". You know what they say: "Opinions are like assholes...everybody has one."<br /><br />I think religion is much more touchy than politics. I don't understand atheists...feel sorry for them actually. They seem to be very unhappy people, but still, that's their right. What I don't think they understand is that our Constitution guarantees us freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. I certainly won't push my spirituality on them, but I don't think they should push their atheism off on me. Live and let live, I say.<br /><br />Your Semper Fi story....LOVE IT! "There are no atheists in foxholes." ;)<br /><br />SLowandslowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08608734222483888884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-75894873457220395422012-06-13T10:04:28.998-04:002012-06-13T10:04:28.998-04:00I wrote a big comment about religion before but it...I wrote a big comment about religion before but it upset me, so I'l just say, yes, avoid both topics.<br /><br />I am very happy being an atheist. I am very happy for my Hubby to be Catholic. I am very happy for my daughter's tutor to be training as a Deaconess and to talk to us about her religion. <br /><br />I just don't want to follow any religion myself and I DO want to have that choice. Without forcing it on anyone else or having anyone force theirs on me. (their and heir are also examples of no I before E)<br /><br />And the bit that made me unhappy cos I was describing and remembering in my now deleted comment, I REALLY like eating my dinner without my family screeching at each other about their different beliefs.Eccentricesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350166822047688150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-23794723354499100742012-06-13T09:41:05.937-04:002012-06-13T09:41:05.937-04:00Cranky you are correct. I never discuss politics a...Cranky you are correct. I never discuss politics and religion it always escalates to a huge ass fight in my family. My husband is an Atheist but he does not preach - he believes there is no higher being but it is his opinion. I was raised Roman Catholic and do not practice. We struggle each day with what religious beliefs we will raise our daughter with we get shot for it everyday but you know what is is no ones business. I truly enjoy your posts every single day!Mommy Bagshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14016498338534458441noreply@blogger.com