tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post1997019735077260205..comments2024-03-26T17:55:50.539-04:00Comments on Cranky old man: Wheel of Misfortunejoehhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08520161706680568508noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-22941743915770190322014-10-26T13:44:14.175-04:002014-10-26T13:44:14.175-04:00I've read this twice and went to the original ...I've read this twice and went to the original news story. I still don't know what to think. I guess if it were me I'd just save the gum for the classroom of a teacher who didn't have the wheel. I mean, really - it's not like teacher yanked this "surprise" out of a closet just for that poor unsuspecting crybaby!Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07359404486512786477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-27927329590061704582014-10-26T07:09:04.536-04:002014-10-26T07:09:04.536-04:00And gum stuck to your forehead wasn't humiliat...And gum stuck to your forehead wasn't humiliating? Ok, that was actually funny also.Arkansas Pattihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14156004753267665579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-64830396837897747112014-10-26T04:11:10.770-04:002014-10-26T04:11:10.770-04:00You're right, school should be fun once in a w...You're right, school should be fun once in a while. i had fun teachers and always looked forward to gong to school. I like the wheel of misfortune idea too. Riverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14794655013673748992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-16683430466006579162014-10-25T23:37:24.977-04:002014-10-25T23:37:24.977-04:00Yeah, if students truly had another choice and tha...Yeah, if students truly had another choice and that was communicated then there shouldn't be a problem here, only an award for the teach. If it wasn't communicated then I agree with what happened. Problem is that the story is vague on the truth of the choice. <br /><br />We're supposed to like choice, right? <br /><br />Then again, where the death penalty still exists there used to be choice until the pro-choicers pushed to try and make all forms not involving controlled substances go away. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-74147650675803939882014-10-25T23:05:31.184-04:002014-10-25T23:05:31.184-04:00I like teachers who are fun. I think that teaching...I like teachers who are fun. I think that teaching does not have to be harsh and hard all the time. After all we all have been kids once upon a time.MunirGhiasuddinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05232362559666320301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-8953997129457803632014-10-25T21:58:15.106-04:002014-10-25T21:58:15.106-04:00I don't really read from the comments people w...I don't really read from the comments people wanting to return to the discipline of old. This teacher may not have been appropriate, I wouldn't do it if I were a teacher nor would my son who is a teacher, I think some just think it was relatively harmless and was out in the open. The teacher was trying to try something different and the school didn't really come down on her too hard other then to send her to sensitivity training. From my discussions with teachers today, some feel they teach on egg shells, constantly careful about everything they say and do. It is hard to teach and maintain discipline when you have to always look over your shoulder. The old days of child labor and teachers with paddles are not coming back, perhaps some kids today are taking advantage of that knowledge. It is a fine line, one we see out of school with law enforcement. Too much power in the hands of people in charge can and does get abused, Take away their teeth and no one is in charge. I appreciate your point of view and your passion.joehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08520161706680568508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-64534471934327203612014-10-25T21:29:48.368-04:002014-10-25T21:29:48.368-04:00Joe. Delete this if you wish, it does not fit in w...Joe. Delete this if you wish, it does not fit in with the other commenters. <br /><br />This, the responses, rather disturb me. It seems people, who may or may not have kids, are saying "oh for the good old days, when teachers could hit students with impunity." This bothers me. Yeah, in the 'good old days' kids as young as 6 were sent to work 12 hours a day in cotton mills, in fields. They worked for a nickle a day in clothing sweatshops. And hitting them was considered good discipline. <br />Do we really want those days back? Because one is just symptomatic of the other.....hitting people is a good way of making them do what they want, they should be treated like adults, made to work. <br />In the instance you gave above, the discipline by making her stand in front of the class and let them throw things at her, and the teacher throwing too, is there a element of humiliation there? Do we really think she was up there laughing as it was going on? Further, what did this teach her? To shut up, not make waves, be invisible in class. A good lesson for kids, girls particularly, eh? <br />Mainly I think it showed her that she was different, apart from the other kids. On her own. I don't care if it was cotton balls they were throwing...they showed her she wasn't one of them. A powerful message for a teenager, who want to belong more than anything else. <br />Cheers,<br />Mike<br />Should Fish Morehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18400586203204886095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-64573122169527198002014-10-25T20:26:29.139-04:002014-10-25T20:26:29.139-04:00Oh, we had chalk and erasers flung at us, too! But...Oh, we had chalk and erasers flung at us, too! But that was in the upper grades. And you know what? It didn't hurt us. And we learned to stop the shenanigans. The hair grab was a little extreme, but Bev had strong follicles. She was a serial talker. She learned to be sneakier.<br /><br />Bev did not run home to her treasure-stuffed house under the spreading limbs of a gnarled tree, that reminded me of the Swiss Family Robinson treehouse, where she had a pet flying squirrel in a bird cage, and tell her hippy dippy parents. They would have told her, "Then you need to shut up. Serves you right." Their hippy-dippiness went only so far. The Man could stick it to their kids if they didn't toe the line, thus allowing them to go on about their hippy-dippiness without interruption.<br /><br />Nah...I think that kid was bitter because she got caught, and decided to make that teacher pay. Girls are like that. Grudges and all. Boys take it and move on. Clean slate.Valhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13025832536749983018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-68672411772373819742014-10-25T19:59:37.639-04:002014-10-25T19:59:37.639-04:00When I think of the teachers who really affected m...When I think of the teachers who really affected my education, it troubles me to think that most of them wouldn't be allowed in classrooms today.stephen Hayeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17659054447637207734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-66802589036643966952014-10-25T19:57:06.072-04:002014-10-25T19:57:06.072-04:00I was hoping for a teachers POV, though hair grabb...I was hoping for a teachers POV, though hair grabbing and desk flinging is a little over the top. We used to have to dodge chalk flung by ex-baseball players.<br /><br />My theory is the kid told her parents because she thought it was funny, and the parents disagreed and made a big hoo ha out of it.joehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08520161706680568508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-75559486436763210252014-10-25T19:15:56.057-04:002014-10-25T19:15:56.057-04:00Don't do the crime, y'all
If you fear the ...Don't do the crime, y'all<br />If you fear the Kush ball<br /><br />She should have paid attention so she knew the rules. I find it hard to believe that she didn't observe others spinning the wheel, and understand what it was about. What she's really mad at is that her spin landed on the Kush ball. If it had landed on "Pass the punishment on to another student," I doubt she would have gone crying to mommy.<br /><br />I'm also sure the administration knew about this little game. If not, they are a poor administration. That wheel was huge. Who could miss it, simply walking by in the hall?<br /><br />Back in my day, a sixth grade teacher grabbed my friend Bev by the hair, and yanked her seven ways to Sunday against her one-piece metal flip-top desk, like bouncing a red rubber ball attached by an elastic string off a wooden paddle. You know what? Bev stopped talking out of turn. As did the rest of us.<br /><br />School discipline these days is weak sauce.Valhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13025832536749983018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-76721037881712342192014-10-25T16:46:16.612-04:002014-10-25T16:46:16.612-04:00that and passing the punishment to another student...that and passing the punishment to another student.Jimmyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00079471254681821763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-38778734761119900602014-10-25T15:01:57.810-04:002014-10-25T15:01:57.810-04:00Like Hilary, I disagree with the next test fail as...Like Hilary, I disagree with the next test fail as a wheel choice.joehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08520161706680568508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-67703089799579626112014-10-25T14:40:08.531-04:002014-10-25T14:40:08.531-04:00The choices include: lunch detention, failing thei...The choices include: lunch detention, failing their next test, passing the punishment along to another student, buying the teacher a bottle of water or letting classmates pelt the students with balls. It is a creative way to administer discipline, maybe the school district should allow the teacher to spin the wheel also. Jimmyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00079471254681821763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-75692171236008286552014-10-25T12:42:06.325-04:002014-10-25T12:42:06.325-04:00This hurt, Joe--you know how uptight I am!!This hurt, Joe--you know how uptight I am!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-22996978901974675222014-10-25T12:38:59.478-04:002014-10-25T12:38:59.478-04:00I read the article and I'm still scratching my...I read the article and I'm still scratching my head. I can't see it as bullying. I see it as a creative and playful. Don't get me wrong, I was a fierce mother bear if I felt my kids were truly wronged in any way. But it seems to me that this is a painless, fun way for the student to deal with something she shouldn't have been doing in the first place. It would be very different if it was tennis balls. It would be very different if it was eggs. It was foam balls.<br /><br />Plus.. if the student had the choice between a lunch detention and spinning this wheel.. she had to know what she might be in for. If she thought the wheel options were wrong and potentially humiliating for her, she should have taken her standard lunch detention. <br /><br />The only thing (of those that were included in the article) that I wouldn't agree with is having the option to fail the next test. That's nothing to do with mibehaviour. <br /><br />I fear that this will defeat this creative educator's teaching spirit.Hilaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12787493532006658679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-54899794772227685032014-10-25T11:49:03.242-04:002014-10-25T11:49:03.242-04:00I should have included the link.I should have included the link.joehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08520161706680568508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-63867642161242150732014-10-25T11:47:40.843-04:002014-10-25T11:47:40.843-04:00Ah, yes, gone are the days when your parents knew ...Ah, yes, gone are the days when your parents knew before you got home, and agreed with the teacher.Joanne Noragonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09834682329952369721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-79271260994964581362014-10-25T11:38:46.617-04:002014-10-25T11:38:46.617-04:00Times and sensibilities have changed.Times and sensibilities have changed.Rosaria Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133147851332084180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-80648037603894144272014-10-25T11:32:13.827-04:002014-10-25T11:32:13.827-04:00Here's a link to a newspaper that printed an a...Here's a link to a newspaper that printed an article about the incident. I suggest you folks read it and form your own opinions. It includes comments from the student who was in front of the classroom.<br /><br />http://www.columbian.com/news/2014/oct/10/videos-prompt-bullying-investigation-local-teacher/Should Fish Morehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18400586203204886095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-31187199392453227072014-10-25T11:28:47.402-04:002014-10-25T11:28:47.402-04:00I can remember getting clobbered with the ruler ac...I can remember getting clobbered with the ruler across my knuckles. Ouch. You sure didn't run home and say anything to your parents or you'd get worse. It's a shame how things have changed. Those in authority are now the bad guys and the snotty nosed little hellions are in charge.<br /><br />Have a fabulous day Joe. ☺Sandeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06785788498697004273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-48989024352400485882014-10-25T10:43:42.343-04:002014-10-25T10:43:42.343-04:00Somebody's become uptight and stupid.
Don'...Somebody's become uptight and stupid.<br />Don't include me in that group.(not necessarily your) Uncle Skiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02705753220273516841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-968059214758329257.post-82940044292236669612014-10-25T10:34:29.500-04:002014-10-25T10:34:29.500-04:00we've become so uptight and stupid... :)we've become so uptight and stupid... :)TexWisGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13641962051044162710noreply@blogger.com